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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I for one have found Christian camps a real encouragement through the years!</description>
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		<title>By: My little corner &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Holidays</title>
		<link>http://www.4-14.org.uk/how-should-christians-enjoy-a-holiday/comment-page-2#comment-20768</link>
		<dc:creator>My little corner &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Holidays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Anyway, here is the url for the post I refer to above http://www.4-14.org.uk/how-should-christians-enjoy-a-holiday [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.4-14.org.uk/how-should-christians-enjoy-a-holiday/comment-page-2#comment-20699</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks! i especially like the study on OT tradition and how we can learn from the Jewish holidays from centuries ago. 
but i think an important thing to remember is that these weren&#039;t all necessarily Jewish &quot;holidays&quot;... they were Jewish &quot;rituals&quot;... so just making sure the point of our holiday isn&#039;t to be ritualisic or try to do the &quot;good Christian thing&quot; and make a checklist in our heads of things we need to do in order to feel more holy and productive, lol. but using the time as best as we can to spend time with God, as any other day, seems fitting. :)  He just wants to be included, not escaped from :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks! i especially like the study on OT tradition and how we can learn from the Jewish holidays from centuries ago.<br />
but i think an important thing to remember is that these weren&#8217;t all necessarily Jewish &#8220;holidays&#8221;&#8230; they were Jewish &#8220;rituals&#8221;&#8230; so just making sure the point of our holiday isn&#8217;t to be ritualisic or try to do the &#8220;good Christian thing&#8221; and make a checklist in our heads of things we need to do in order to feel more holy and productive, lol. but using the time as best as we can to spend time with God, as any other day, seems fitting. <img src='http://www.4-14.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   He just wants to be included, not escaped from <img src='http://www.4-14.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.4-14.org.uk/how-should-christians-enjoy-a-holiday/comment-page-2#comment-23487</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a PK  we had lots of holidays visiting missionaries and Dad would preach through interpretation - because of the language barrier of course!! They were great times but I think there was the healthy balance of work and rlaxation. All of us, including Dad, were ready to come home. As an older teen I loved being an officer on loads of camps and the Aber conference...well! The getting married and having kids. Yes Aber and Keswick, but then there was the weekly children&#039;s work and youth work in church. We definitely needed a break from that and were the better for it when it resumed in September.More recently, the kids and I have enjoyed a long weekend in Italy as our only family holiday, and they have been to camps as their holidays. I need a break, definitley, but they have to be taken as days only for obvious reasons. The last one was in February!! I think a time may come when they can give back by being officers and active in their churches, but I hope they also take the time to relax so that they don&#039;t burn out. Whatever form that relaxation takes is a personal thing but I&#039;m sure they won&#039;t be clubbing in Spain!!!!You&#039;ve certainly provoked some discussion up here (EMW mag), and its always good to review how we spend our time. But that is also true of all year round.Have a good Aber - Deiniol is looking forward to it. He is in one of the Cwrt Mawr YP flats having had an excellent Quinta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a PK  we had lots of holidays visiting missionaries and Dad would preach through interpretation &#8211; because of the language barrier of course!! They were great times but I think there was the healthy balance of work and rlaxation. All of us, including Dad, were ready to come home. As an older teen I loved being an officer on loads of camps and the Aber conference&#8230;well! The getting married and having kids. Yes Aber and Keswick, but then there was the weekly children&#039;s work and youth work in church. We definitely needed a break from that and were the better for it when it resumed in September.More recently, the kids and I have enjoyed a long weekend in Italy as our only family holiday, and they have been to camps as their holidays. I need a break, definitley, but they have to be taken as days only for obvious reasons. The last one was in February!! I think a time may come when they can give back by being officers and active in their churches, but I hope they also take the time to relax so that they don&#039;t burn out. Whatever form that relaxation takes is a personal thing but I&#039;m sure they won&#039;t be clubbing in Spain!!!!You&#039;ve certainly provoked some discussion up here (EMW mag), and its always good to review how we spend our time. But that is also true of all year round.Have a good Aber &#8211; Deiniol is looking forward to it. He is in one of the Cwrt Mawr YP flats having had an excellent Quinta.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Williams (via Facebook)</title>
		<link>http://www.4-14.org.uk/how-should-christians-enjoy-a-holiday/comment-page-2#comment-21204</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison Williams (via Facebook)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a PK  we had lots of holidays visiting missionaries and Dad would preach through interpretation - because of the language barrier of course!! They were great times but I think there was the healthy balance of work and rlaxation. All of us, including Dad, were ready to come home. As an older teen I loved being an officer on loads of camps and the Aber conference...well! The getting married and having kids. Yes Aber and Keswick, but then there was the weekly children&#039;s work and youth work in church. We definitely needed a break from that and were the better for it when it resumed in September.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More recently, the kids and I have enjoyed a long weekend in Italy as our only family holiday, and they have been to camps as their holidays. I need a break, definitley, but they have to be taken as days only for obvious reasons. The last one was in February!! I think a time may come when they can give back by being officers and active in their churches, but I hope they also take the time to relax so that they don&#039;t burn out. Whatever form that relaxation takes is a personal thing but I&#039;m sure they won&#039;t be clubbing in Spain!!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You&#039;ve certainly provoked some discussion up here (EMW mag), and its always good to review how we spend our time. But that is also true of all year round.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have a good Aber - Deiniol is looking forward to it. He is in one of the Cwrt Mawr YP flats having had an excellent Quinta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a PK  we had lots of holidays visiting missionaries and Dad would preach through interpretation &#8211; because of the language barrier of course!! They were great times but I think there was the healthy balance of work and rlaxation. All of us, including Dad, were ready to come home. As an older teen I loved being an officer on loads of camps and the Aber conference&#8230;well! The getting married and having kids. Yes Aber and Keswick, but then there was the weekly children&#039;s work and youth work in church. We definitely needed a break from that and were the better for it when it resumed in September.</p>
<p>More recently, the kids and I have enjoyed a long weekend in Italy as our only family holiday, and they have been to camps as their holidays. I need a break, definitley, but they have to be taken as days only for obvious reasons. The last one was in February!! I think a time may come when they can give back by being officers and active in their churches, but I hope they also take the time to relax so that they don&#039;t burn out. Whatever form that relaxation takes is a personal thing but I&#039;m sure they won&#039;t be clubbing in Spain!!!!</p>
<p>You&#039;ve certainly provoked some discussion up here (EMW mag), and its always good to review how we spend our time. But that is also true of all year round.</p>
<p>Have a good Aber &#8211; Deiniol is looking forward to it. He is in one of the Cwrt Mawr YP flats having had an excellent Quinta.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Cooke</title>
		<link>http://www.4-14.org.uk/how-should-christians-enjoy-a-holiday/comment-page-2#comment-23486</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Cooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would depend what your working at and I am not sure the kids and wife would be to happy with that.We at T4U are starting lads and dads trips and connect which will encourage young people from from church-ed backgrounds to meet and work together so you can promote working hols sorry trips for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would depend what your working at and I am not sure the kids and wife would be to happy with that.We at T4U are starting lads and dads trips and connect which will encourage young people from from church-ed backgrounds to meet and work together so you can promote working hols sorry trips for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Cooke (via Facebook)</title>
		<link>http://www.4-14.org.uk/how-should-christians-enjoy-a-holiday/comment-page-1#comment-21203</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Cooke (via Facebook)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would depend what your working at and I am not sure the kids and wife would be to happy with that.&lt;br /&gt;We at T4U are starting lads and dads trips and connect which will encourage young people from from church-ed backgrounds to meet and work together so you can promote working hols sorry trips for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would depend what your working at and I am not sure the kids and wife would be to happy with that.<br />We at T4U are starting lads and dads trips and connect which will encourage young people from from church-ed backgrounds to meet and work together so you can promote working hols sorry trips for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Barnes</title>
		<link>http://www.4-14.org.uk/how-should-christians-enjoy-a-holiday/comment-page-1#comment-23485</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alison: I was conscious that much of what I wrote didn&#039;t necessarily seem easy to achieve. I actually thought of the two of you as I was writing! I&#039;ll follow up on an e-mail - I owe you a message or two ;-)@Dave: I&#039;m not conforming, believe me. I&#039;ve yet to meet anyone who&#039;s read this, and said &quot;that&#039;s why I&#039;ve been doing!&quot;. I was asked to write this because I asked the question: &quot;what does the Bible say about holidays?&quot;, and no-one knew the answer - and nor did I. But we need to know - we spend a lot of money and time on them. One of the things that this leads to is that we should be less self-centred with our view of holidays, more concerned for others, and - at least sometimes - we ought to be prepared to work through our holidays. I thought you would approve of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alison: I was conscious that much of what I wrote didn&#039;t necessarily seem easy to achieve. I actually thought of the two of you as I was writing! I&#039;ll follow up on an e-mail &#8211; I owe you a message or two <img src='http://www.4-14.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> @Dave: I&#039;m not conforming, believe me. I&#039;ve yet to meet anyone who&#039;s read this, and said &quot;that&#039;s why I&#039;ve been doing!&quot;. I was asked to write this because I asked the question: &quot;what does the Bible say about holidays?&quot;, and no-one knew the answer &#8211; and nor did I. But we need to know &#8211; we spend a lot of money and time on them. One of the things that this leads to is that we should be less self-centred with our view of holidays, more concerned for others, and &#8211; at least sometimes &#8211; we ought to be prepared to work through our holidays. I thought you would approve of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Barnes (via Facebook)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Barnes (via Facebook)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alison: I was conscious that much of what I wrote didn&#039;t necessarily seem easy to achieve. I actually thought of the two of you as I was writing! I&#039;ll follow up on an e-mail - I owe you a message or two ;-)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;@Dave: I&#039;m not conforming, believe me. I&#039;ve yet to meet anyone who&#039;s read this, and said &quot;that&#039;s why I&#039;ve been doing!&quot;. I was asked to write this because I asked the question: &quot;what does the Bible say about holidays?&quot;, and no-one knew the answer - and nor did I. But we need to know - we spend a lot of money and time on them. One of the things that this leads to is that we should be less self-centred with our view of holidays, more concerned for others, and - at least sometimes - we ought to be prepared to work through our holidays. I thought you would approve of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alison: I was conscious that much of what I wrote didn&#039;t necessarily seem easy to achieve. I actually thought of the two of you as I was writing! I&#039;ll follow up on an e-mail &#8211; I owe you a message or two <img src='http://www.4-14.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Dave: I&#039;m not conforming, believe me. I&#039;ve yet to meet anyone who&#039;s read this, and said &quot;that&#039;s why I&#039;ve been doing!&quot;. I was asked to write this because I asked the question: &quot;what does the Bible say about holidays?&quot;, and no-one knew the answer &#8211; and nor did I. But we need to know &#8211; we spend a lot of money and time on them. One of the things that this leads to is that we should be less self-centred with our view of holidays, more concerned for others, and &#8211; at least sometimes &#8211; we ought to be prepared to work through our holidays. I thought you would approve of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Cooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Cooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey bro get a life just wait till the kids come along, Mark please take the blinkers off you do not have to conform to your surroundings this disappoints me, even to find time to write this stuff, there&#039;s kids dying out there wheres the compassion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey bro get a life just wait till the kids come along, Mark please take the blinkers off you do not have to conform to your surroundings this disappoints me, even to find time to write this stuff, there&#039;s kids dying out there wheres the compassion</p>
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